Hmmm...
Drivers usually don't care about Service Packs. But I must admit that due to me using an ATI card I'm not 100% sure that nVidia really didn't do anything to their drivers making SP2 necessary.
But anyway I just can't help but STRONGLY advise you to install SP2! The reasons for that are countless - just like the numbers of different malware out there. You are using the internet and Windows is full of known and unknown security holes. Always installing the latest updates from M$ is one very important way to keep at least the number of known holes down to a minimum.
Just my 2 cents...
Drivers usually don't care about Service Packs. But I must admit that due to me using an ATI card I'm not 100% sure that nVidia really didn't do anything to their drivers making SP2 necessary.
But anyway I just can't help but STRONGLY advise you to install SP2! The reasons for that are countless - just like the numbers of different malware out there. You are using the internet and Windows is full of known and unknown security holes. Always installing the latest updates from M$ is one very important way to keep at least the number of known holes down to a minimum.
Just my 2 cents...
I've been looking at it from Shauns cockpit view with pedal input on. So it's easy to see that he is lying about braking - he brakes after he hit olddog, not before. And if he had made use of his mirrors he would have seen olddog coming up from behind very quickly. And being the one rejoining the track I think he has to check the mirrors at least. So I believe he just thought he could make use of his inside line to keep olddog behind him which was ridiculous considering the speed-difference between the two and the dirty tyres Shaun had after going off. So he rather punted another driver off after completely misjudging the whole situation.
On the other hand the situation was close and Shaun seems to be rather aggressive all the time. So if I was in olddogs position I might have given Shaun more room. He was on dirty tyres anyway and olddog could have easily passed him through the chicane due to better grip.
I still think that the fault is at Shaun. IMHO he drives way to aggressive all the time - just look at the rest of the race. He doesn't seem to have heard about patience anytime in his life and this incident wasn't the only time he went off track due to too aggressive driving.
But I also think that olddog knew that Shaun used to drive like nuts. And claiming your good rights against such bad behaving drivers often leaves you stranded in the gravel and the other one getting away with it as he knows better how to recover from collisions, having to do so all the time.
On the other hand the situation was close and Shaun seems to be rather aggressive all the time. So if I was in olddogs position I might have given Shaun more room. He was on dirty tyres anyway and olddog could have easily passed him through the chicane due to better grip.
I still think that the fault is at Shaun. IMHO he drives way to aggressive all the time - just look at the rest of the race. He doesn't seem to have heard about patience anytime in his life and this incident wasn't the only time he went off track due to too aggressive driving.
But I also think that olddog knew that Shaun used to drive like nuts. And claiming your good rights against such bad behaving drivers often leaves you stranded in the gravel and the other one getting away with it as he knows better how to recover from collisions, having to do so all the time.
What?
The 7300 LE is the absolute low-end of the latest GPU-line of nVidia. I wouldn't call such a card a "good buy" or "decent".
It will be capable of running LFS though - I believe...
I hope...
The 7300 LE is the absolute low-end of the latest GPU-line of nVidia. I wouldn't call such a card a "good buy" or "decent".
It will be capable of running LFS though - I believe...
I hope...
I think this one fits rather well into this thread. Dunno where I found it first, but it's probably been linked somewhere in this forum... 
OK...
First of all: in the end EVERY single component gets its power from the PSU. Maybe not directly but also the mainboard doesn't power itself in some magical way.
Had to say that after reading several times in this thread about the difference if something got its power from PSU or MB. There is no difference if it's the psu which is at fault...
@ STROBE: it's always difficult to make diagnostics on a somehow damaged PC if you don't have it lying before you. For example I have already seen a faulty IDE cable completely preventing a PC from even POSTing. Something like this is impossible to guess from afar...
So if a fault is not obvious to see (like for example everything that should be cooled is covered with dust...) the best thing to do is to unplug things step by step and see if the problem disappears at some point. And if you already stripped the box down to only the very necessary stuff (MB, CPU, RAM, VGA, PSU) and the fault still remains you can only see if you have some parts to temporarily exchange the rest piece by piece. This is necessary since without most of these parts the PC won't POST anyway so just taking away RAM completely will not make you see anything.
But I guess you have a PC yourself, so you might have some parts to exchange - and like suggested many times before I would also go for the PSU at first. Like rabidmaddog already said there is no need to mount it inside the case - just plug everything in where it should be and see if it works. I wonder why you haven't done that already after every second suggestion in this thread told you to see if it's the PSU...
You know, a spinning fan does not necessarily mean that there is enough power to also run a CPU/GPU which need A LOT more power. Also a PSU has different outputs with different voltages and sometimes only one of them can be faulty causing the whole system to fail.
If all of this doesn't get you anywhere, there is still the other way round that you can try. If you have a flawlessly working PC you could exchange its parts piece for piece with the ones from the damaged one and see at which point the working PC stops working...
I know this can be a lot of screwing and mounting and stuff and can take a long time but if you have absolutely no hint why the PC stopped working a simple try-and-error-process is anything you can do.
I hope I could help you and make myself clear because my english is not quite perfect in some of these technical terms...
Anyway - I wish you good luck in finding the error...
P.S.: ah! I forgot! There are parts that are not directly powered by the PSU - it's the RTC and the CMOS...
First of all: in the end EVERY single component gets its power from the PSU. Maybe not directly but also the mainboard doesn't power itself in some magical way.
Had to say that after reading several times in this thread about the difference if something got its power from PSU or MB. There is no difference if it's the psu which is at fault...
@ STROBE: it's always difficult to make diagnostics on a somehow damaged PC if you don't have it lying before you. For example I have already seen a faulty IDE cable completely preventing a PC from even POSTing. Something like this is impossible to guess from afar...
So if a fault is not obvious to see (like for example everything that should be cooled is covered with dust...) the best thing to do is to unplug things step by step and see if the problem disappears at some point. And if you already stripped the box down to only the very necessary stuff (MB, CPU, RAM, VGA, PSU) and the fault still remains you can only see if you have some parts to temporarily exchange the rest piece by piece. This is necessary since without most of these parts the PC won't POST anyway so just taking away RAM completely will not make you see anything.
But I guess you have a PC yourself, so you might have some parts to exchange - and like suggested many times before I would also go for the PSU at first. Like rabidmaddog already said there is no need to mount it inside the case - just plug everything in where it should be and see if it works. I wonder why you haven't done that already after every second suggestion in this thread told you to see if it's the PSU...
You know, a spinning fan does not necessarily mean that there is enough power to also run a CPU/GPU which need A LOT more power. Also a PSU has different outputs with different voltages and sometimes only one of them can be faulty causing the whole system to fail.
If all of this doesn't get you anywhere, there is still the other way round that you can try. If you have a flawlessly working PC you could exchange its parts piece for piece with the ones from the damaged one and see at which point the working PC stops working...
I know this can be a lot of screwing and mounting and stuff and can take a long time but if you have absolutely no hint why the PC stopped working a simple try-and-error-process is anything you can do.
I hope I could help you and make myself clear because my english is not quite perfect in some of these technical terms...
Anyway - I wish you good luck in finding the error...
P.S.: ah! I forgot! There are parts that are not directly powered by the PSU - it's the RTC and the CMOS...
What comes to my mind is:
I'll miss this "Grrrrrrrrrr! growled the bear." in the top left of my screen...
Good luck!
I'll miss this "Grrrrrrrrrr! growled the bear." in the top left of my screen...
Good luck!
At first I would try to download the complete game version U and not only the patch and then try to unlock this one. If it works you can copy all your setups and replays and skins into the new installation and delete the old one. If not, you can still send a PM / Email to Victor like suggested.
Good luck!
Good luck!
The sound of the wind generated by a helmet that you are wearing directly on your ears is VERY loud at medium speed already. I'm sure the wind noise at about 300 km/h would be enormous. Although I haven't tried myself, I find it possible that the noise generated at F1-speeds can reach levels of an unsilenced engine like F1's are. But you can't really hear this from the outside since the impression of loudness in this case comes mainly from the sound being produced directly at your ears.
, I find it possible that the noise generated at F1-speeds can reach levels of an unsilenced engine like F1's are. But you can't really hear this from the outside since the impression of loudness in this case comes mainly from the sound being produced directly at your ears.For a deeper look into this stuff you might want to have a look at www.sysinternals.com . They have a lot of nice little helper-tools around there, a lot of them completely freeware. In your case "Autoruns" and "Process Explorer" might be kinda handy.
As the name already implies, "Autoruns" is a tool that lists all of your autoruns sorted by the place they are started at - and I mean really all, and not only what "msconfig" gives you. And of course you can disable or delete all of them to your liking. BUT: be very careful if you do so! Autoruns doesn't give you any hint if the autoruns listed are necessary for windows to run! You could easily render your windows unbootable if you don't know what you're doing!
And the "Process Explorer" is an advanced kind of the windows task manager. It shows you all running processes and everything these processes are using during runtime, be it files or whatever. You can of course kill running processes with the Process Explorer but you can also kill a single handle of a given process. This can be very useful if you want to delete some kind of leftover files from an uninstalled programm, because sometimes windows doesn't let you delete it since some process might still have access to the file to be deleted. I think nearly every windows user experienced this sometimes - you want to delete a file but some windows task is still using it for no reason and so you can't delete it because windows won't let you delete a file that is being used. With Process explorer you can search for the handle and you don't need to kill the whole process but you can kill only the handle and then delete the file.
You can even configure the Process Explorer to replace the standard windows task manager, so that pressinf Ctrl+Alt+Del doesn't bring up the windows task manager but the process explorer.
Both tools are not to be installed, they are run by just executing the *.exe-file, so your system stays clean.
As the name already implies, "Autoruns" is a tool that lists all of your autoruns sorted by the place they are started at - and I mean really all, and not only what "msconfig" gives you. And of course you can disable or delete all of them to your liking. BUT: be very careful if you do so! Autoruns doesn't give you any hint if the autoruns listed are necessary for windows to run! You could easily render your windows unbootable if you don't know what you're doing!
And the "Process Explorer" is an advanced kind of the windows task manager. It shows you all running processes and everything these processes are using during runtime, be it files or whatever. You can of course kill running processes with the Process Explorer but you can also kill a single handle of a given process. This can be very useful if you want to delete some kind of leftover files from an uninstalled programm, because sometimes windows doesn't let you delete it since some process might still have access to the file to be deleted. I think nearly every windows user experienced this sometimes - you want to delete a file but some windows task is still using it for no reason and so you can't delete it because windows won't let you delete a file that is being used. With Process explorer you can search for the handle and you don't need to kill the whole process but you can kill only the handle and then delete the file.
You can even configure the Process Explorer to replace the standard windows task manager, so that pressinf Ctrl+Alt+Del doesn't bring up the windows task manager but the process explorer.
Both tools are not to be installed, they are run by just executing the *.exe-file, so your system stays clean.
You know...
there are people in the world that learned english at SCHOOL and NOT as their native language. Is it really that hard to understand that not everybody can read that pseudo-wannbe-gangsta-stuff-or-whatever-crap...???
Hell, I can't even understand people from southern germany if they start off with their local dialect.
And one more:
I also read that "MsPMSPSv.exe" is part of the windows media player 7 on Win 2000. So if you don't use this combination of OS/mediaplayer you might want to look if this is some kind of spyware that tries to hide by using a filename used by some windows versions too.
You can also try a little program called "Hijackthis" which can be found here. It checks your running processes and autostarts and IE plugins and such stuff and generates a log-file that you can copy and paste on the website I linked to get some results on what it found out.
But be aware that there is everything in the logfile - not just malware! So don't go and fix everything rightaway...
You can also get help on their forums I think - never used the forum myself so far. The fixing of found malware is not always successful but at least you get an idea if there might be trouble around and where it might be located.
Ad-Aware and SpyBot can do such jobs too, but from my experience they don't find all bad stuff in case your system is really ... well ... sick ...
I also read that "MsPMSPSv.exe" is part of the windows media player 7 on Win 2000. So if you don't use this combination of OS/mediaplayer you might want to look if this is some kind of spyware that tries to hide by using a filename used by some windows versions too.
You can also try a little program called "Hijackthis" which can be found here. It checks your running processes and autostarts and IE plugins and such stuff and generates a log-file that you can copy and paste on the website I linked to get some results on what it found out.
But be aware that there is everything in the logfile - not just malware! So don't go and fix everything rightaway...
You can also get help on their forums I think - never used the forum myself so far. The fixing of found malware is not always successful but at least you get an idea if there might be trouble around and where it might be located.
Ad-Aware and SpyBot can do such jobs too, but from my experience they don't find all bad stuff in case your system is really ... well ... sick ...
No. "navapsvc.exe" belongs to Norton AV. TBH I would advise everyone to NOT use Norton products anymore. Some years back they were rather good but nowadays they can only be described as crap in many aspects.
*EDIT*
I just read that some users say that this process takes a lot of CPU-power and memory away. Can't confirm this since I obviously don't use it myself...
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I once had the same problem and it was caused by the Texture LOD Adjustment in ATI Tray Tools. I wanted a high quality screenshot and raised the value up to the max and got the same problem. Putting it back to normal solved it - no noticable visible difference.
*EDIT* deleted useless part of posting...
See the attached picture. Hope I could help you.
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BUT:
This way one wrecker/n00b/whatever can spoil the race for a lot of other people that can't rejoin too. You surely don't want to penalize all the other respectful drivers for the behaviour of one idiot, do you?
This way one wrecker/n00b/whatever can spoil the race for a lot of other people that can't rejoin too. You surely don't want to penalize all the other respectful drivers for the behaviour of one idiot, do you?
TBH I don't see your problem with that. Those people are to be lapped - that's it. Normal racing. In real life racing it also happens that somebody who is about to be lapped comes out of the pits right in front of the leader. That's just every day racing.
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Nice idea but my experiences I made with GTR public servers makes me say that the possibility of mid-race joining is one of the greatest advantages LFS has over ISI games, net code wise.
When you have a severe accident in T1 in LFS (be it your own fault or anotherones) you just enter the pits and rejoin the race and have lost maybe half a lap and can still finish the race in a good position. And this is just what people do.
This is not possible in ISI-engined games. The result: people who have little accidents just leave the server as they have no chance to enter the pits and rejoin. And going around the track for a repair is something they just don't do. This leads to the field half empty after the first lap. Btw. in GTR suspension damage isn't even repaired if you go for a pitstop.
illepallSo this feature does not only help the wreckers (rarely seen on S2 servers) but also the wrecked ones. And it helps everybody if it was just a normal race accident.
You saw the link in his post? It's the red one and it has FFB. Or what did you think stands the "Force" in "Formula Force GP" for...?
I once bought it since I was a bit suspicous about FFB having used non-FFB nearly 10 years long before and didn't want to risk too much money on something I might not be happy with. At that time I used it with the GTR-demo and the ETCC-mod from RSR for F1C. I didn't like it and sold it after one day. Dunno why, but the FFB just seemed completely unrealistic to me. I also don't know if other wheels have better FFB or if it was the fault of GTR or F1C (ETCC). But maybe it was just me. I'm a bit special about my wheel. Now I still use my old MS Sidewinder Precision without FFB.
*EDIT*
One thing I remember is that the pedal plate was just a bit too small for my feet. I was constantly going up and down at the back corner of the plate. This even made my feet hurt after some driving.
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OK, for the last time:
What I was reading (not watching) was an article about the official investigation by the FIA and Williams, containing the official report. You can believe this report or not.
And of course the pictures were used in court as they give you an overall idea of what happened. But they are way too blurry to draw any solid conclusions about the initial cause of the accident.
The telemetry on the other side tells you exactly what the car did and what Senna did. Quite everything is monitored in that data. Suspension travel, g-forces in any direction, steering input, pedal input, whatever you like to have, and all of this at a very high recording rate.
What the telemetry can NOT deliver is for example why Senna did what he did. And it also can't tell you how slippery the road really was outside the racing line and stuff like that.
So it doesn't give you everything one would like to know about it. But I'd rather base my opinion on facts than on unclear observations. And in this case the facts that we have (the telemetry) do not leave too much room for further speculations. At least IMHO.
What can I still do?
I only told you what the official investigation found out by analyzing the telemetry data and people tell me that this can't be, just by looking at some crappy low-res videos which can give you a rough idea what was happening but nothing special can be seen on this.
I really don't get it why nobody seems to be willing to believe this. But maybe some conspiracy theory is more convincing to most people than facts.
I never said to know myself what exactly happened but the telemetry is the only clear facts that are to be investigated after the crash. A low-res TV-picture just is not capable to deliver any rock-solid facts. So as a conclusion I believe more in the investigation of the facts as in the uncounted theories derived from blurry video material.
But hey, believe whatever you want, I'm fine with that...
What you believe or not is rather pointless because the facts of the telemetry data have nothing to do with what you believe.
1.: On the video I found on the site you linked I can clearly see that Senne is not right on the apex. From that camera angle it is hard to see how much exactly he is away from the inside of the corner but I would guess that it's about 1 m.
2.: It is also clearly to see in that vid that the car steps out with its rear at first. This is also what was in the article I mentioned, just didn't make it clear in the post I told about it. Senna corrects this (with his supernatural reaction) by going wide but this put him on the dirty part of the track where he could not keep the car on the track anymore. So the theory that his steering broke is bs. If that was the case the car would not have stepped out with the rear at first, it would have gone straight and nothing else.
I know it's hard to believe for some people that Sennas death was caused by a mistake he made on his own as he is considered some kind of racing-god. But after all he is just a human being - and these do make mistakes however perfectly they can drive.
And what do you mean with "no real conclusion has come from this whole thing" ????? The telemetry data are crystal-clear facts. Of course real conclusions have come from this. Or is it just the fact that you don't believe what I wrote? I'm really sorry that I can't tell you anymore where I read that article, but please understand that this was over 10 years ago.
And concerning the suspension rod - this is just what I said.
Correct. This was said to be the reason. It's OK, since it's pointless anyway to have rules without the possibility to enforce them.
:ices_rofl
You didn't read my posting, did you?
It was not meant as a joke or something, this was really an article about an official investigation.
I can only agree to that. Nearly everything the FIA changed in F1 regulations in the past years was complete bs. For example you may only change your engine after two races...??? WTF - it's F1 goddammit!!!!! If you want to make F1 cheaper and more competetive for lower budget teams you should ban some of the most expensive materials. I mean not everything on a F1 car MUST be made of carbon fibre. Just the monocoque for safety reasons and that's it. This would also make F1 cars heavier which would help with overtaking too.
Bah, I'm getting a bit upset about the bit-by-bit-destruction of a once great racing series by some money-driven a*******.
Should better calm down as it doesn't help anyway...
Bah, I'm getting a bit upset about the bit-by-bit-destruction of a once great racing series by some money-driven a*******.
Should better calm down as it doesn't help anyway...
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